Showing posts with label Ultimate Marvel. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ultimate Marvel. Show all posts

Monday, August 10, 2009

You keep using that word. I do not think it means, what you think it means.
or "Ultimate" Marvel? Really??

Not that this is a new thought to ANYONE, by any stretch of the imagination, but it seems to me that MARVEL really doesn't know what the word "ULTIMATE" really means.

It's like the scenes from The Princess Bride (sorry, I never read the book - I only have the movie to reference here) where Vizzini keeps using the word; "Inconceivable", and Inigo Montoya finally replies; "You keep using that word. I do not think it means, what you think it means."

Such has been my state of thinking with pretty much ANYTHING from the Ultimate Marvel Universe.

I don't want to be one of those comic fans / readers / bloggers who does nothing but complain about what I'm reading.
Honestly, that's not me (usually).

More often than not, I'll be the one guy who LIKES the stuff that others think is crappy.
I've always been that way.

MAN-THING was / is one of my all-time favorite titles / characters!

The "B"-side of most old 45-rpm singles usually caught my interest far more than the hit release "A" side.
(Those who have never seen/played a 45-rpm single have NO idea what the hell I'm talking about here. Damn kids.)

Heck, when I was following sports (as a lad, in the 1970's,) I was a NY METS fan!
(even though I've long since given up on caring about sports, I always feel the pain when the METS choke midway thru the season... it's hard not to care about someone you once loved.)

So, please understand that when I loathe something, it's only because I can find NO redeeming qualities to it. NONE. NOONKA. NADA. ZERO. ZIP. ZILCH.


*NOTE: Some MAJOR SPOILERS are in this post for anyone who hasn't yet read the Ultimatum storyline or the first issue of
Ultimate FF. Requiem.
(lookin' at YOU "waiting for the trade" guys out there).
This is your ONLY warning.*

Such is my loathing for the ULTIMATE "Ultimatum" storyline and it's fallout.
(bear in mind I'm only referring to the STORY. The ART on most of those issues was some truly good stuff. I mean... the rendition of how the Blob was cannibalizing the Wasp was sublime. Dr. Strange's head popping like a zit? Exquisite. Louvre-worthy.)

However, as a Doctor Strange fan - which means that I even have to check in on the post death situation of "Ultimate" Dr. Strange (remember that part where I mention loving stuff that most people don't?) I felt that I should check in on the follow-up wrap-up events in the subsequent "Requiem" storylines.

Thus, I read Ultimate Fantastic Four ; Requiem # 1.

The issue is written by Joe Pokaski, pencilled by Robert Adkins, with inks by Marc Morales & colors by Guru FX.

Let me first state that the artwork & coloring on the issue is quite good. No problems there.
Now, I know nothing of Pokaski, and he might be an otherwise fine writer, as the majority of the issue seems fairly well penned... BUT... the major story beats can't possibly be all his doing, as the Ultimatum event was written and arranged by Jeph Loeb.

So, I can only feel it safe to guess that Loeb set up much of what I found objectionable in this issue that expounds upon the story of "Ultimate Dormammu" and the death of "Ultimate" Dr. Strange Jr, and just how Johnny (Human Torch) Storm found his way into a magic amulet around Dormammu's neck.

First up, how does Johnny GET to the Dark Dimension (or should it be "Ultimate Dark Dimension" - as anyone who read my write up on the events of Stephen Strange Jr's demise [HERE] knows, I brought up the question of how an alternate DIMENSIONAL entity could be affected by an alternate universe / Earth - shouldn't dimensions be beyond the physical plane of universes and earths? But I digress..)?

Turns out, that after the destructive tidal wave destroyed much of NYC, Johnny is screaming at the heavens (and, directing his speech at the physical Statue of Liberty in NY Harbor). Here's what happens next.

The Statue comes to life, speaks in an outragious French accent (that should come from a helmeted man atop a turreted castle - just before a cow is launched at invaders) and EATS the Human Torch, thus passing him through a dimensional portal to the Dark Dimension.

"I faart in your generaaal direction!
Your mozzer waz a hamster and your fazzer smelt of elderberries."

Yes.
I can't believe anyone thought of that and didn't immediately dismiss it is lame.
After Ghostbusters II, I thought it was obvious that animating the Statue of Liberty is just a poor idea.

Here, Loeb (c'mon... it HAD to be his idea) has Pokaski write that Dormammu enchanted the statue in order to suck down powerful energies to funnel them into his home turf.
But, the statue isn't ambulatory. So, it had to either "eat" the energies in a manner like a bottom feeding fish - just waiting for things to make their way into it's mouth - or, like in this case, actually LAND on it and wait to be ingested.

To make matters worse, Dormammu's dialogue patterns are just poor attempts at... well... pretty much everything; braggadoccio, humor, evil snappy patter, spoken words, writing...etc...

Here's how he introduces the arrival of Johnny.

Dormammu makes a "Poop" joke!

How much better would a "Heeeeeeeere's Johnny!" have been?
(OK. He probably wouldn't know the reference(s), but still.)

Beyond that, a POOP joke?
Really??
And... he actually says "POOPED"!?!?
It's hard to take a demonic overlord seriously, when they won't even say a word as harsh as "Crap", as in; "Look what that power-constipated city just CRAPPED out!".
But instead, the man with the flaming head says "poop".
I'm suddenly filled with the urge to leave him on my neighbor's doorstep, ring the bell and run.

Now, I won't go into Johnny's situation too much.
Basically, the Human Torch is kept as a prisoner and Dormy is sucking down his energies like a smoothie.

When he's good and full, Dormammu says he has an appointment to see a Doctor (Yes... Strange. C'mon... he knows what a doctor's appointment is, but never saw Johnny Carson or "The Shining"? bah).

I won't show the replay of the death of Stephen Strange Jr. (really, it's just a minorly redrawn version found in my previous write-up [again...HERE]), but immediately after Strange is turned to human bean curd, the THING and Sue (Invisible Girl) Storm show up and proceed to
KICK. DORMAMMU's. ASS.

Actually, it isn't even the THING who does it. He's fighting the grunt demons.
Sue (with an assist from Johnny) snuff Dormammu like a candle in a jar.

One more time;
Sorcerer who is supposedly TRAINED for such an event (well... barely, but he IS a mystic hero fighting a mystic threat): Killed without effort.

Two "regularly powered" heroes: SNUFF. DORMAMMU.

And this is why guys like neilalien and I sigh a lot.
Our mantra is; "It's so hard at times to be a Dr. Strange fan", and it's shit like THIS that does it.

Yes, Ben. So much needless death. Most of it of former LEGENDS by hacks!

The only possible silver lining here is just who the hell is "Ultimate Dormammu" if he looks like a skinny angsty twenty-something when he's not all godly?

Another possible clue (although, it could just be bad-writing) is that as soon as Sue shows up and starts insulting Dormammu with snappy patter (y'know... before she wrecks him)... she does the invisible act and Dormammu seems to have no way to know where she is.

"Which way did she go, George? Which way did she go?"

And to top it off, Johnny just calls him "dude".

No mystical senses that allow him to be able to "see what is unseen" or sense her human taint.... nope. She might as well have stayed visible and just put her hands in front of her face like a toddler saying "You can't see me!" (which is supposedly the first magic trick a young-PTOR performed as a toddler. Thank you. Thank you very much).

The rest of the issue deals with other events in the lives of the U.F.F. and the Dormammu / punk isn't seen again.

However, I'd imagine that this isn't the last the Ultimate Universe has seen of him OR of Dr. Strange (as seen - yup... one more time... [HERE]).

I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad about that.

Monday, June 29, 2009

Pen-Ultimate Doctor Strange?
-or-
Ding Dong, Dork Doc is Dead.

As a part of my recent reading my backlog of the past 2+ months' pile of comics, I came across the events of Ultimate Spider-Man # 131, 132 & Ultimatum # 4.

*NOTE: Some MAJOR SPOILERS are in this post for anyone who hasn't yet read the Ultimatum storyline
(lookin' at YOU "waiting for the trade" guys out there).
This is your ONLY warning.*


Ultimatum # 4
Cover "A" by David Finch and Variant cover "B" by Ed McGuinness


Before I get involved with the seeming DEATH of the Ultimate Universe's Stephen Strange Jr., I should note that in the events of those issues, the Sanctum Sanctorum was once again destroyed.

Anyone who has followed this blog long enough (or just lucked into the posts via a google search) knows that I had a long running, and extensive expose' on ALL of the varied times that the Sanctum was destroyed.

So, the other day, I added THIS instance to that series, found [HERE] in the next-to-last entry of that series.

HOUSING CRISIS : SANCTUS INTERRUPTUS - Part VII
- A look in the mirror before heading out: - The Finale.

(You may notice that I made a note of the add-on in the "SPELLS RE-CAST" feature on the sidebar. A handy place where I note any additional major tweaks to old posts.)


So, feel free to check THAT out, but not before you stick around and witness the apparent demise of "Ultimate" Doctor Strange
(and...just WHY is he called "Doctor" Strange if he isn't a doctor of any kind, anyway? I thought only Dr. Doom had the ability to pull that off. But I digress...).

OK.
So, back to the point at hand.

In the "Ultimatum" storyline (basically the equivalent of the "reboot" switch being thrown for the line of comics that, by the very nature of it's intended origin, should never have needed one) Magneto has finally become pissed off enough to warrant his laying waste to the Earth, in an attempt to punish homo sapiens for the death of his kids; Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch.

To that end, he has screwed up the magnetic fields of the planet and caused earthquakes, ice-ages and floods to crop up all over the world.

During the massive flooding of Manhattan, many heroes were killed - either by the disaster itself, or by altercations with villains.

"Strangely" enough, with the exception of the Hulk
the other 3 guys in this pic are now (or are claimed to be) DEAD.

One such instance was when Doctor Strange's Sanctum Sanctorum was destroyed (remember, check out the last entry at THIS post for the full scoop on that).
Spider-Man and the Hulk were battling against the various demonic hoards that erupted from the wreckage of the mansion, including the possessed form of Stephen Strange.
It seems that "Doc Jr." was knocked out and the entity; NIGHTMARE invaded his body.

"Who's been sleeping in MY head?"
(from Ultimate Spider-Man # 132 Bendis/Immonen/Von Grawbadger)

Nightmare-Strange then manipulates Spidey and Hulk to battle foes pulled from their own nightmares, and in doing so, causes the Hulk to go ape-shit and thusly destroy a vital mystic ward inside the Sanctum.

This isn't good.It's like that episode of Bugs Bunny where the gremlin is testing warheads with a hammer.
(also from Ult. Spidey # 132)

This dimensional barrier was the only thing keeping DORMAMMU from invading Earth, and with its destruction, the Lord of the Dark Dimension rose out of the ashes.

Ultimatum # 4 (of 5)
Jeph Loeb (half-assed story), David Finch (sweet pencils),
Danny Miki (crisp inks), Peter Steigerwald (pretty colors)
It would seem that THIS was sufficient to "wake" Strange, and for him to shake off the possession by Nightmare - although, the writing is so piss-poor that this, and other plot points, aren't clearly addressed.

For instance, WHEN in "Ultimate Doc's" published history has he been portrayed as being anything more than a 2nd rate sorcerer? When did he show that he could levitate without the Cloak of Levitation? When did he suddenly get the stones to go up against Dormammu of all things? (something Doc Sr. could do, but Jr. here just never seemed able to much beyond basic spells.)

I also find it a bit forced that Dormammu is brought up at all in this, since there's only ever been the most basic of mystical threats shown in the Ultimate U. At least where the resident "Sorcerer Supreme" has been concerned.
Xandu and Nightmare.
Pretty sure that's been the sum total.
So, Dormammu pops up with little or no explanation.
If someone were to read this issue having never read a "616" appearance of Dormammu before, they'd just think he was a generic flame-headed demon.
No biggie.
So. Chalk that up to piss-poor writing as well.
(Synonymous with the name LOEB)

(I SHOULD mention at this time that the artwork is beautiful. Finch, Von Grawbadger and Steigerwald really do themselves justice here. But, back to my rant about the writing...)

Also, when was the Human Torch shown to have been grabbed by Dormammu?
It's an off-panel event (unless I missed something. If so, please set me straight in the comments section).
Sure he's been MiA for a while in the Ult FF title, but there hadn't been any reason to think that he'd pop up in Dormammu's keepsake locket, right?

The Torch is being used as a fire source... and WHY is that?!? Sure, Dormammu is a Faltinian and flame is their natural state - so unless he required an earthly manifestation of fire to use as a catalyst, I don't see the need (although, we really don't know much about "Ultimate Dormammu" * ).


Don't start none - won't be none.
Well... I guess there'll BE some no matter what, really.

However, Dormammu isn't taking ANY shit from Junior here.
In a bit of dialogue that sets up the title of "Sorcerer Supreme" as a mantle passed down a blood-lineage (not sure how I feel about that really), Dormammu states that he is finally to rid himself of the last, and least of the line.

Dormammu pops Jr. like a boil on the ass of the world.

So, thankfully (and in reply to my many prayers for just such an occasion - many of which had been written ON THIS BLOG) "Ultimate Doc" is killed off as the punk that he is.
Good riddance.

Or... IS he really gone?

For we next see a shadowy form sigh and vanish with young Stephen Jr's bloody pulped body.


Perhaps it is Wong. I doubt that it is Stephen's mother, Clea. She wouldn't be casual enough to sigh at her son's horrific demise. Especially since her only appearance in the Ultimate line was as a worried-sick mother who did not want her son to follow in his father's footsteps (back in the Ultimate Team Up series - Issue # 12 to be exact. Ult Doc's first appearance).

Perhaps, and this is MY wish; it is DOCTOR STRANGE (Sr.) himself, free of whatever dimensional situation he vanished to all those years ago, returned to Earth, only to bear witness to his son's death.
That would finally make "Ultimate" Doctor Strange more than his son; "PenUltimate Doc".
If Stephen Strange Sr. comes out to play in the Ultimate universe, then I'll be happy.
(Well... relatively happy, since I really don't give a crap about the Ultimate U. thus far.)

So there you have it.
The "event" is not yet over at the time of this writing.
One last issue of the mini and a few "Requiem" issues to go, and then we'll see a new rebirth to the "Ultimate" universe.

Stephen Strange Jr.
R.I.P.
(Rest in Pieces)
2002 - 2009

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* I had a thought.
If the Ultimate Universe is just another reality, and there have already been many examples of Marvel "616" characters being able to access other realities (since they are just other dimensions, really) - wouldn't that possibly make this "Ultimate Dormmamu" to simply BE the "616" Dormammu?

Sure, it COULD be another version of the entity, but WHY?
The Ultimate Universe should primarily be alternate versions of the PHYSICAL PLANE; i.e; people, planets, space, etc... and NOT the DIMENSIONAL aspects of reality.

But, then, they DO have an "Ultimate Asgard" don't they?
Is there an "Ultimate Living Tribunal" or "Ultimate Eternity"?
Having "Ultimate" dimensional entities just seems wrong to me.

Oh well... whatever.
"Ultimately"... does it really matter?



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*UPDATE*
10/10/2009

Well, there's been some answers to my questions / points of problematic happenstance in this issue (published later in Fantastic Four: Requiem).

REVIEW and INFO can be found in a new post [HERE]

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Sunday, November 30, 2008

HOUSING CRISIS :
SANCTUS INTERRUPTUS - Part ∞ -
A look in the mirror before heading out:
- The Alternate Universes of the Sanctum

* Part VII in this series: here *
* Part VI in this series: here*
* Part V in this series: here*
* Part IV in this series: here*
* Part III in this series: here*
* Part II in this series: here*
* Part I in this series: here*

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*Updated 06-27-09*
(see the last entry)
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*Updated 01-06-12*
(announcing a new entry to the series
see the end of the post)
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*Updated 08-04-12*
Given NEW "numbering" of
to avoid confusion
(too late)
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(So... if you've come to THIS post FROM "PART VI", you need to quickly go to a new addendum before you read this.)

Housing Crisis : Sanctus Interruptus - Part VII- The Rebuilding [HERE]

Then come back here and continue.
Sorry for any confusion.
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Before we take our leave of this review of the many rises and falls of the Sanctum Sanctorum, let us stride through the Chamber of Extrospection; an impossibly long hallway (surely, longer than the outside of the house would lead you to believe possible) illuminated by intermittently-spaced lighting sconces which emit jets of flame.

Between each flaming light are portals, heavily draped with plush green velvet curtains, bordered with rich wood framework, and replete with ornate carvings (runes? wards? Apotropaic magic?).

Pull up a chair to one of the portals, part the curtains and gaze into the mirror within.

What do you see?

No. Not yourself.
Look at the mirror and not what it shows.
See beyond the surface... gaze deeply into the pool.

Now... what do you see...?


Alternate realms of reality.
Scenes of "what might be".
Incidental happenstance.

Causal drops in a large cosmic ocean, ripples arching outward into waves of effect which then fade again into the surface of the waters of time and space.

Some experiences as real as your own heartbeat.
Others; a fever dream of a slumbering supreme being.
All, however, as lasting as your image, when you walk away from the mirror.
(A mirror here in the Chamber of Extrospection might remember your face, long after you have departed it's presence - a persistence of memory likened to that of what occurs when one reads a comic book story of a possible alternate reality. The incident is temporary, but still someone, somewhere remembers it... However, a normal, mundane mirror most likely does not have that rare quality, and you are quickly forgotten.)

It is within this realm of grand possibility and minor reality that we take our final tour with today's entry in the history of the many rises and falls of the Sanctum Sanctorum.

So, make sure you have everything before we go.
Got your keys? Bag? Phone? Good. Let's take a final look in the mirror before we head out the back door.

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This past week we have seen nearly every incident of major destruction of the Sanctum Sanctorum, ignoring or omitting most of the minor occurrences and most that were only "interior" damage - caused, most likely by battles being waged within it's very walls (let's face it; The Hulk and Sub-Mariner trashed the place practically every time they gathered there for DEFENDERS meetings).

However, there have been interior battles and invasions that have transpired. While we can't possibly look at even a fraction of them, I did pull out a few: one at random and one specifically.

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The specific incident was a time when ZOM came very close to returning to Earth.
While he was an all-powerful, malefic entity in his original form, after re-trapped within his confining amphora, Zom was more an essence than a physical being. (It was this essence that Dr. Strange ingested during the World War Hulk incident - as seen at the end of my last post: *here*).

However, in this situation, in Doctor Strange : Sorcerer Supreme # 20, the amphora was accidentally broken, and the essence of Zom escaped.
Growing by ingesting and absorbing the mystical energies within the Sanctum, this "Zom-ling" ran rampant throughout the Sanctum, causing destruction and mayhem at every corner.

He was only defeated in the nick of time, by... a vacuum cleaner.

It seems, that he absorbed as much dust and such as he did magical energy, and so his body was comprised of quite a lot of dust and debris that was susceptible to the vacuum's pull.

Vacuum made by Watoom : the "Vacoomb"
Doctor Strange : Sorcerer Supreme # 20
Roy & Dann Thomas (story) / Butch Guice (art)


(Good thing he didn't attack MY "sanctum". With all the dust-bunnies in MY place, Zom would be the size of Detroit)

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The other (randomly chosen) incident was in the pages of Crystar # 3.
Warring brothers and their factions (one brother made of living crystal, the other, out of living magma) cross the dimensional divide between their world and ours, via mystical means, to materialize within the Sanctum.
What happens next is obvious; men made out of magma burn everything they touch. A fight ensues, resulting in more damage. Doc waves his hands. Everything is fixed.

Actually, while the issue has several pages of panel-by-panel continuity showing these events, nothing inside is better than the issue's cover, by Michael Golden.

So, I'm just showing that.

The Saga of Crystar : Crystal Warrior # 3
Just LOOK at that awesome cover by Michael Golden.
No need to see anything else.

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Also, worth mentioning, but impossible to explore in depth are the many times that the sigil-window was smashed, crashed into, breaching the mystical seals that keep invaders at bay.

I'll point out two such instances;


Infinity Gauntlet # 1 saw the Silver Surfer, who had been racing to warn the Earth of the threat of Thanos, smashed through the window and landed in a heap within the Sanctum, meditation chamber.

Stephen Strange asks why Norrin has yet to learn how to use a door!
Infinity Gauntlet # 1
Jim Starlin (story) / George Perez (art)

However, just so show that Strange can compensate for damage to the Sanctum, even after the sigil-window has been removed, the next issue, in Infinity Gantlet 2, saw the entirety of the Earth suffer an "earthquake", and only via Strange's quickly cast protection spell was the Sanctum the only structure that was spared.


"There goes the neighborhood... literally!"
Infinity Gauntlet # 1
Jim Starlin (story) / George Perez (art)

One other, more drastic incident was within Uncanny X-Men Annual # 7.
The Impossible Man ran rampant throughout Earth looking for items for some intergalactic "Scavenger Hunt".
One item on the list? Just the Sanctum's window. Not much.


It's like dropping a mystical Mentos in a cauldron of Cola! FWOOSH!
Uncanny X-Men Annual # 7
Chris Claremont (story) / Michael Golden (pencils) / Terry Austin (inks)

Mystic wards disrupted, magic explodes from the house. As impossible as it seems, Strange can be caught completely off-guard by attacks of such randomness.

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There occurred, a more recent instance of such an attack.
A carefully planned and precisely executed surprise attack is exactly what disabled Doctor Strange, in Fantastic Four # 498, when Doctor Doom sought to remove him as a threat to his own mystical attack upon the Fantastic Four.

"I'm sorry, but my brain can't come to the phone right now..."
Fantastic Four # 498
Mark Waid (story) / Mike Wieringo (art)

Devilish imps maintain control over a mesmerized Sorcerer Supreme, all the while wreaking more havoc upon his already battle-ravaged Sanctum.

Later, further destruction was made manifest during the follow-up battle between Doom and the Four.

Afterwards, it is safely assumed that Strange simply cast a spell that repaired his ransacked home.

Still, that incident really "occurred", and as such counts as a destruction / restoration incident. However, it didn't happen within the pages of Doc's own title, which is why it was left off of the master list.

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What selections we'll visit now are the stuff of "what if?" (but NOT from actual issues of the comic titled; "What If?" Seriously, that way leads to madness)...

The first instance DID occur within the pages of Doctor Strange's own comic - the truly EPIC Master of the Mystic Arts # 55!

A mirror to the classic film; "It's A Wonderful Life", Strange is shown what life would be like if he had never learned the ways of magic.

In the instance of the Sanctum Sanctorum, it's either the artist's studio where his comic is produced or simply a set in the dream-sequence of his warped and twisted imagination.


At least this "Clarence" can drive.
"TED TEVOSKI" & "LES TANE", heh heh


"Doc Keem" ahh.....

Zhu Zhu's petals!
Doctor Strange : Master of the Mystic Arts # 55
Roger Stern (story) / Michael Golden (pencils) / Terry Austin (inks)

Still, it was all a shadow-play by the fear-lord; D'Spayre. It happened... and didn''t happen all at the same time.
(Illusions are funny that way.)

While this issue's event might seemingly have been one for the "Part III - Shadows on the Wall" post, however, since the Sanctum wasn't destroyed, per se - just re-purposed and then dismantled as a theatre backdrop, it doesn't quite count, and falls within the purview of this post.

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A similar piece of "what if-ery" were the events of Ms. Marvel v2 # 5.
TIme&space-displaced madman-turned-mystic; Warren Traveler played a game of cat-and-mouse with the titular heroine in and out of the time-stream.

Having been a prisoner within the Sanctum, Traveler gained possession of the Wand of Watoomb, which greatly increased his abilities. So much so, that he was able to successfully threaten Doctor Strange, and then... blow up the Sanctum!





Being transported to yet another reality, one where everyone on Earth is killed by a marauding swarm of flesh-eating alien insects, Ms. Marvel & Traveler continue their struggle.


Only by a time-jump by the two was Ms. Marvel able to aid Strange to rebuke the initial attack - retroactively - effecting either a temporal anomaly - or - a new alternate reality... thusly saving the Sanctum from further destruction.


I did say "further" destruction. Who knows how bad it would have become if she was not brought back to that slightly earlier point in time?



Strange has another wand in his pants.
Entire sequence from
: Ms Marvel v2 # 5
Brian Reed (story) / Roberto De La Torre (art)

(Also effected were "spacial relations" between the two heroes.)

There HAVE been other situations where a "possible future" has shown the Sanctum to be a smoldering ruin or abandoned derelict.

The Guardians of the Galaxy title from the 1990's had a disciple (Talon) learning from the Sorcerer Supreme (the batwing-headed, worm-like alien; Krugarr) within the gutted walls.

"Strange 2099" inherits a ramshackle and ivy-overgrown and flood-water-logged Sanctum Sanctorum as well.

But frankly, those are even too far out for ME to include here.
Maybe one or two other readers even remember those characters...

To that end, I'm sure I could add the "Days of Future Past" timeline as well.

You see, the possible "post-apocalyptic" futures in the Marvel "history" are legion.

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The ultimate "dream" storyline saw the merging of the Marvel universe with that of DC. The Amalgam Universe - and comics line - saw several "amalgamations" of both universe's characters.

Doctor Strangefate being the most powerful entity to emerge from that joining, created his own dark and powerful version of the Sanctum Sanctorum.


Everything about this is awesome.
Doctor StrangeFate # 1
Ron Marz (story) / José Luis Garcia-Lopez (pencils) / Kevin Nowlan (inks)

Later, however, when that merged universe was threatening to return via the hidden movings of Strangefate's machinations, a battle came to a head within the walls of the Sanctum Sanctorum.

Batman had burst through the ornate window, and soon thereafter was joined by other combatants, from both realities; Marvel and DC alike: The X-MEN and JLA!





Doc throws a wicked kegger. The jocks get out of hand.
DC / Marvel : All-Access # 4
Ron Marz (writer) / Jackson "Butch" Guice (pencils) / Joe Rubinstein (inks)

The Sanctum suffered some structural damage from the altercation, until Strangefate emerged to take a more personal hand in the outcome.


Enter : StrangeFate! Exit : reality!
DC / Marvel : All-Access # 4
Ron Marz (writer) / Jackson "Butch" Guice (pencils) / Joe Rubinstein (inks)

Doing so, he immediately restructured the Sanctum into his own dark tower once more.

"Oh. No. You. Didn't."
DC / Marvel : All-Access # 4
Ron Marz (writer) / Jackson "Butch" Guice (pencils) / Joe Rubinstein (inks)

This, of course, did not go over well with Doctor Strange, who reversed the spell and preserved the Amalgam Universe as it's own separate, but equal reality.


And our universe is on a dust-mote on a giant's eyelash.
DC / Marvel : All-Access # 4
Ron Marz (writer) / Jackson "Butch" Guice (pencils) / Joe Rubinstein (inks)

However, just when you thought I couldn't get more random with this exercise (especially after that "Zom-ling" selection), I will prove that I can.

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Not a dream, not an imaginary tale... oh wait. It's TOTALLY an imaginary tale...
Stan Lee Meets Doctor Strange. A "one-shot" issue wherein Stan "the Man" tells new (wacky) takes on his favorite classic characters (Spider-Man, the Thing, SIlver Surfer, Dr. Doom - and - Doctor Strange).

Stan pays a visit to his old friend Stephen Strange's Sanctum Sanctorum and it isn't quite the way he remembers it (although, I for one would love to get in there just for a few moments).


No. I'm sorry.
Between the awesome artwork and the theoretical possibility that such a store might exist...
I can't make any comments here.

Stan Lee Meets : Doctor Strange # 1
Stan Lee (writer) / Alan Davis (art)

While there, Stephen tells Stan a tale of his recent financial woes, and the times that the Sanctum Sanctorum is destroyed.

Alan Davis...




...NEEDS to draw...


...NEEDS to draw...

...Dr. Strange!

Sorry. Drooling over the art. Wong, please mop that up, while you're at it.
Stan Lee Meets : Doctor Strange # 1
Stan Lee (writer) / Alan Davis (art)

However, Strange and Wong do whatever they can to keep the Sanctum in top running order. Lest Stephen lose his security deposit

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*UPDATED ENTRY*
06-27-09
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This next and thus-far last (for now, but probably not "the" last) instance of Sanctum's destruction took place in the
Marvel "Ultimate Universe".
For those unfamiliar with the Ultimate M.U., it is/was/will be Marvel's offshoot universe which was to be the alternative comics' line for those who didn't want to get bogged down with the mainstream ("616" as it is known in geek culture) Marvel universe's 40+ years of continuity.
(This seems to have been mostly unsuccessful in it's initial goal since in a mere 9 years, they bogged themselves down plenty, or else they wouldn't be hitting the reboot-button already.)

Anyway, this situation takes place, specifically, at the seeming END of the Ultimate Universe (or at least the point where the "reboot" is to happen)... given the catchy name of "ULTIMATUM", which ran through all of the individual titles as well as a special mini-series.
In this cataclysmic "end of days" storyline, Magneto; the mutant master of magnetism, is out to destroy all mankind because his children; Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch were killed (at the stinking paws of damned, dirty humans - a plan set in motion by Dr. Doom to be precise).

To this extent, he altered the magnetic fields of the planet and caused tidal waves that destroyed American cities, ice ages to befall parts of Europe and other disastrous after-effects.

In the midst of the carnage, in New York City, superheroes were all trying to save as many people as they could.
However, they couldn't save everyone or account for everything.

In fact, several super heroes were among the death toll (can't make a New Universe Omelet without breaking a few heads, right?).
In the midst of the receding waters that, at their height, had covered many tall buildings, the "flotsam and jetsam" of such a 'watershed' included such things as NYC TAXI CABS.

Ultimate Spider-Man # 131
Brian Bendis (words), Stuart Immonen (pencils), Wade Von Grawbadger (inks)


A cab lodged in the sigil window of the Sanctum Sanctorum is all that is needed to disrupt the major protective spells that kept the magic from escaping into the world around it.

"Who ya gonna call?"

However, this wasn't the end of the destruction.
Far from it.

For inside the Sanctum was a mystic orb that acted as dimensional barrier to the Dark Dimension. But nothing short of an "act of God" could disrupt the protective spells that protected it.
Or so the young Stephen Strange Jr. (son of the former Sorcerer Supreme) thought, as he once told Spider-Man in confidence.

This is what is known as "Tempting fate".

However, as these things tend to happen... never say never.

The usual Greenwich Village nightlife.

For after this first explosion, the body of Stephen Strange, possessed by the demonic entity NIGHTMARE, caused the Spider-Man and the Hulk to battle visions that dwelt within their psyches... visions taken form.
One such phantasm led the Hulk into the breached Sanctum and caused him to smash open the dimensional orb.

This isn't good.
It's like that episode of Bugs Bunny where the gremlin is testing warheads with a hammer.


The ensuing explosion totaled the neighborhood and resembled an atomic detonation.


"Boom"

It also let free DORMAMMU, Lord of the Dark Dimension, who in short order KILLED the young Doctor Strange.

But that is a subject of it's own entry [HERE].

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This wraps up the intensive, exhaustive (and frankly, intensely exhausting) look through the varied examples, throughout published comic history, of the multiple rises and falls of the Sanctum Sanctorum.


I hope you found it to be entertaining and informative.
Please make sure the door is locked on your way out.

But feel free to stop by again - soon.

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*UPDATE 01-06-2012*
Don't miss the NEWEST additions to this exciting and informative series:
Housing Crisis : Sanctus Interruptus - Part VII- The Rebuilding [HERE]


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Then, feel free to join me in wrapping this series up - HERE - in:
Housing Crisis : Sanctus Interruptus -
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